Luis Elizondo, head of the Pentagon’s secret AATIP UFO program, spoke to CNN Turk. “Could UFOs be man-made? Responding to the question, Elizondo said, “If UFOs are a technology developed by our enemies, it means one of the greatest intelligence failures our country has ever seen. “It could be an even bigger failure than 9/11,” he said. Here is the exclusive interview with CNN Türk’s foreign press correspondent, Hilken Doğaç Boran …
You ran the Pentagon’s UFO program for almost 10 years. But you recently filed a formal complaint with the Ministry of Defense. You claimed they were trying to discredit you. Why did the Pentagon make such an attempt?
ELİZONDO: The Pentagon has stood in a corner for years trying to hide the truth from the public and American politicians. Unfortunately, they thought it would be easier to discredit me than to communicate honestly with the American people. But I think that’s starting to change. They began to realize how futile this was to cover up and hide the truth. I think the truth will come to light eventually. Politicians and the public will learn this truth and decide if there is a national threat.
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You are one of the key figures in the UFO mystery. We are all curious about the UFO report that will be submitted to Congress. What do you think we’ll see in this report?
ELİZONDO: I think this report will be an “interim report”. I don’t think 180 days is enough to prepare a full report on the current UFO problem to Congress. Don’t get me wrong, but even redesigning a kitchen can take longer than that. In addition, the coronavirus epidemic has created a problem. Many of the people who have to prepare this report have not worked for a long time. I hope this will be an interim report and that a more comprehensive report will be prepared in the future.
For most of us, “Are UFOs real? The question is no longer valid. The videos, verified by former President Obama and many senior US officials, are proof of this. The real question is where do they come from. Do you think they are artificial? Or did they come from space?
ELİZONDO: I think we should consider all possibilities until we can eliminate them for good. Yes, my country has accepted that UFOs are real. But we also know it’s not exclusive to the United States. This is a global event. It is also seen in Russia, China and other countries allied or enemies of the United States. If UFOs were Russian or Chinese, they wouldn’t have had the same problems we have. Because frankly, they don’t even know what UFOs are. Few countries are likely to develop such a “new generation” technology. If UFOs are a technology developed by our adversaries, it is one of the greatest intelligence failures our country has ever seen. It could be an even bigger failure than 9/11. Because despite our intelligence agencies, on which we spend billions of dollars each year and which we call “our best and our smartest”, our competitors have technologically overtaken us. That means they’ve been doing this for a long time. It also means that they can travel as they please in our airspace. It is a terrifying possibility. Personally, I hope it has nothing to do with humanity. Because the fact that this is an artificial technology is a very scary thought.
Most of us are excited about the possibility that UFOs could have originated from outer space. But there is a more serious and tangible threat here. These state-of-the-art planes fly in restricted airspace. So far, only the United States has confirmed this. But the same can be true for Russia, China, Turkey and other countries. My question is: what does this mean in terms of national security? And is the Pentagon taking this situation seriously as a potential threat?
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ELİZONDO: There is a difference between a threat and a hostile intention. Those in the national security arm like me pay attention to 2 things when identifying threats. The first element is capacity, the second element is intention. We have seen some of the capacity of these vehicles, but we do not know their intentions. So we don’t know if it’s a threat. But we know they pose a problem for aviation safety. They passed by civilian planes. They prevented planes from landing at airports. In this regard, we can see it as a threat. But that does not mean that there is a hostile intention. We have observed that there is a possibility that they will interfere with our nuclear capabilities. Especially in the fields of nuclear propulsion, nuclear power generation and nuclear bombs. It is a worrying situation.
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You were at the heart of the UFO program. You are now an important name in this field. But there are also many conspiracy theories on the UFO issue. How should we filter this information as viewers? What resources should we prioritize in pursuing this problem?
ELİZONDO: We must be careful but optimistic. I think the government will share information as much as it can. We must also use our judgment. Because it is not possible to arrive at a clear answer with the data available to us. We need to be open-minded and not be prejudiced. In this area, people often turn to assumptions where information and data are lacking. At this point, I think we’ve slipped from facts to belief. We must be careful not to fall into disbelief. We need more information, observations and scientific studies. They must guide us. As humans, we tend to interpret information to match our own opinion. But here we have to do the opposite. Our thinking must be shaped by knowledge and facts. It’s too early to say anything definitive just yet, but we shouldn’t be prejudiced.
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Does the United States or any other country have UFOs or similar technology that we see in the videos?
ELİZONDO: Very good question. Let me repeat to you what I said in my official statement. I think the US government has some pretty “foreign” material. I can’t say much more as I have a confidentiality agreement with the US government as I take the National Security Oath. Beyond that, I cannot comment. But there are materials under study that lack the traditional isotopes seen on this planet. It is the gold standard. Then we must assume that it comes from elsewhere.